Army Lists: Dark Angels with Raukaan Allies (1850pts) v2

So, I chatted with some guys in my local meta about the list I posted yesterday. After, some helpful criticisms and insights, I have come up with the a revised list. I still wanted the two "deathstar" bike squads, but I toned down the IH squad by removing the power mauls. Realistically, the IH captain can put out enough damage on his own if the squad gets mired in an unavoidable CQC. I also removed the immortal Stormraven in favor of armor saturation. So here is the second version of the list:

Dark Angels: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1120pts)

• No Force Org Slot (230pts)

  • Ravenwing Command Squad (230pts)

    5x Black Knight (200pts), Bolt Pistol, Corvus Hammer, Frag and Krak Grenades, Plasma Talon, Power Armor, Ravenwing Apothecary (30pts), Ravenwing Grenade Launcher, Teleport Homer
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Feel No Pain, Gets Hot, Grim Resolve, Hit & Run, Rad Charge, Rapid Fire, Rending, Scouts, Skilled Rider, Stasis Anomaly

• HQ (115pts)

  • Librarian (115pts)

    Power Field Generator (30pts), Psychic Hood
    
    Independent Character, Inner Circle (Fearless, Preferred Enemy (CSM))

    • Power Armour (20pts)

      Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Frag and Krak Grenades, Space Marine Bike (20pts)
      

    • Psyker

      Level 1
      
      Mastery Level 1

• Troops (190pts)

  • Scout Squad (95pts)

    5x Camo Cloaks (10pts), Frag and Krak Grenades, Scout Armour, 4x Scouts (48pts), 3x Sniper Rifle
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scouts

    • Missile Launcher (25pts)

      Flakk Missiles (10pts)
      

    • Scout Sergeant (12pts)

      Sniper Rifle

  • Scout Squad (95pts)

    5x Camo Cloaks (10pts), Frag and Krak Grenades, Scout Armour, 4x Scouts (48pts), 3x Sniper Rifle
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scouts

    • Missile Launcher (25pts)

      Flakk Missiles (10pts)
      

    • Scout Sergeant (12pts)

      Sniper Rifle

• Fast Attack (240pts)

  • Ravenwing Support Squadron (80pts)

    • Ravenwing Land Speeder (80pts)

      Multi Melta (10pts), Multi Melta (20pts)
      
      Deep Strike

  • Ravenwing Support Squadron (80pts)

    • Ravenwing Land Speeder (80pts)

      Multi Melta (20pts), Multi Melta (10pts)
      
      Deep Strike

  • Ravenwing Support Squadron (80pts)

    • Ravenwing Land Speeder (80pts)

      Multi Melta (20pts), Multi Melta (10pts)
      
      Deep Strike

• Heavy Support (345pts)

  • Predator (115pts)

    Autocannon, Lascannons (40pts), Smoke Launchers and Searchlight
    
    

  • Predator (115pts)

    Autocannon, Lascannons (40pts), Smoke Launchers and Searchlight
    

  • Predator (115pts)

    Autocannon, Lascannons (40pts), Smoke Launchers and Searchlight
    

Space Marines: Supplement - Clan Raukaan (2013) (Allied Detachment) (726pts)

• HQ (455pts)

  • Captain (455pts)

    Gift: The Gorgon’s Chain (45pts), HQ, Iron Halo
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Chapter Tactics, Independent Character

    • Artificer Armour (50pts)

      Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Thunder Hammer (30pts)
      

    • Bike (20pts)

      Mounted Assault, Twin-linked Bolter
      
      Mounted Assault, Very Bulky

    • Command Squad (250pts)

      4x Storm Shield (40pts)
      
      And They Shall Know No Fear, Chapter Tactics

      • Apothecary (15pts)

        Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Narthecium, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades
        
        Feel No Pain

      • Space Marine Bikes (35pts)

        Twin-linked Bolter
        
        Very Bulky

      • 4x Veteran Space Marine (60pts)

        4x Chainsword, 4x Grav-gun (60pts), 4x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades

• Troops (191pts)

  • Tactical Squad (191pts)

    And They Shall Know No Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads

    • Drop Pod (35pts)

      Storm Bolter
      
      Drop Pod Assault, Immobile, Inertial Guidance System

    • Sergeant (15pts)

      Chainsword, Grav Pistol (15pts), Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades
      

    • 7x Space Marine (98pts)

      7x Bolt Pistol, 7x Bolter, 7x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades
      

    • Space Marine w/ Grav-gun (29pts)

      Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades

• Heavy Support (80pts)

  • Stalker (80pts)

    Icarus Stormcannon Array, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Storm Bolter (5pts)
    
    Servo-tracking

So, as you can see, there were a few other optimizations as well. I got rid of the Stormtalon and replaced it with a Stalker so that my AA is on the board at the start of the game. I also swapped the troop choices around. The IH tactical marines have better weapon options and chapter tactics for the same price as the DA marines which don't come with as many options. With all of the points that were saved, I was also able to add another melta speeder too.

With all of the armor I will have on the board, I am a little worried about a facing a drop pod (or jump) melta type list. The threat can be mitigated somewhat by careful deployment, but I would probably still lose some tanks early. Overall though, I think this is a more efficient list that I will want to test a couple of times! Feel free to comment below.

Army Lists: Dark Angels with Raukaan Allies (1850pts)

I was bored today at work and decided to do a little list building. I have a bunch of bits coming in to make some Clan Raukaan (Iron Hands) allies, so I want some lists ready to go. Here is my first attempt at something that should be relatively annoying, if not competitive:

Dark Angels: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) (820pts)

• No Force Org Slot (230pts)

  • Ravenwing Command Squad (230pts)

    5x Black Knight (200pts), Bolt Pistol, Corvus Hammer, Frag and Krak Grenades, Plasma Talon, Power Armor, Ravenwing Apothecary (30pts), Ravenwing Grenade Launcher, Teleport Homer
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Feel No Pain, Gets Hot, Grim Resolve, Hit & Run, Rad Charge, Rapid Fire, Rending, Scouts, Skilled Rider, Stasis Anomaly
    
    

• HQ (150pts)

  • Librarian (150pts)

    Power Field Generator (30pts), Psychic Hood
    
    Independent Character, Inner Circle (Fearless, Preferred Enemy (CSM))

    • Power Armour (20pts)

      Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Frag and Krak Grenades, Space Marine Bike (20pts)
      

    • Psyker (35pts)

      Level 2 (35pts)
      
      Mastery Level 2
    
    

• Troops (280pts)

  • Tactical Squad (140pts)

    Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Frag and Krak Grenades, Power Armor, 9x Tactical Marine (126pts)
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Combat Squads, Grim Resolve, Rapid Fire

    • Sergeant (14pts)

      Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
      
    
    

  • Tactical Squad (140pts)

    Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Frag and Krak Grenades, Power Armor, 9x Tactical Marine (126pts)
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Combat Squads, Grim Resolve, Rapid Fire

    • Sergeant (14pts)

      Bolt Pistol, Boltgun                                        
      

• Fast Attack (160pts)

  • Ravenwing Support Squadron (80pts)

    • Ravenwing Land Speeder (80pts)

      Multi Melta (10pts), Multi Melta (20pts)                                        
      

  • Ravenwing Support Squadron (80pts)

    • Ravenwing Land Speeder (80pts)

      Multi Melta (20pts), Multi Melta (10pts)                                        
      

Space Marines: Supplement - Clan Raukaan (2013) (Allied Detachment) (1030pts)

• No Force Org Slot (120pts)

  • Techmarine (50pts)

    Artificer Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Servo-arm
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Blessings of the Omnissiah, Bolster Defences, Chapter Tactics, Independent Character

  • Techmarine (70pts)

    Artificer Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Servo-arm
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Blessings of the Omnissiah, Bolster Defences, Chapter Tactics, Independent Character

    • 2x Servitor with Servo-arm (20pts)

      2x Carapace Armour, 2x Servo-arm
      
      Mindlock
    
    

• HQ (515pts)

  • Captain (515pts)

    Gift: The Gorgon’s Chain (45pts), HQ, Iron Halo
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Chapter Tactics, Independent Character

    • Artificer Armour (50pts)

      Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Thunder Hammer (30pts)
      

    • Bike (20pts)

      Mounted Assault, Twin-linked Bolter
      
      Mounted Assault, Very Bulky

    • Command Squad (310pts)

      4x Storm Shield (40pts)
      
      And They Shall Know No Fear, Chapter Tactics

      • Apothecary (15pts)

        Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Narthecium, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades
        
        Feel No Pain

      • Space Marine Bikes (35pts)

        Twin-linked Bolter
        
        Very Bulky

      • 4x Veteran Space Marine (120pts)

        4x Grav-gun (60pts), 4x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades, 4x Power Maul (60pts)
        
    
    

• Troops (65pts)

  • Scout Squad (65pts)

    Camo Cloaks for Squad (10pts)
    
    And They Shall Know No Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scout

    • Scout Sergeant

      Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Scout Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades
      

    • 4x Scout with Bolter (44pts)

      4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Bolter, 4x Scout Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades
      
    
    

• Fast Attack (125pts)

  • Stormtalon Gunship (125pts)

    Armoured Ceramite, Skyhammer Missile Launcher (15pts), Twin-linked Assault Cannon
    
    Escort Craft, Special Manoeuvres, Strafing Run
    
    

• Heavy Support (205pts)

  • Stormraven Gunship (205pts)

    Armoured Ceramite, Extra Armour (5pts), 4x Storm Strike Missile, Twin-linked Assault Cannon, Twin-linked Multi-melta
    
    Assault Vehicle, Power of the Machine Spirit, Skies of Fury, Special Manoeuvres

Rationale:

So here is my thought process.

On the DA side of things, The Librarian will roll Divination for Prescience (to help the Raukaan bikers). The libby babysits the Ravenwing command squad, and gives them a 4++ thanks to the power field generator. This squad's job is to spew molten dakka at heavy infantry and light transports and stay out of CQC. I may drop the grenade launcher, but I want to play around with it first. The two tactical squads are there to camp backfield objectives. They are completely naked, and are really only there because of the troop tax. The land speeders will be held back in reserves to pop any heavy armor.

On the Raukaan side, the captain is going to sponge damage for the biker command squad. His wargear gives him a 2+/3++ with 4+ FnP, EW, and IWND. The command squad is loaded out with relentless grav guns and will function similarly to the Ravenwing squad. I am less afraid of this squad getting into combat though (3++ vs. 4++), and they will hunt any MCs on the board.  The techmarines and servitors will buddy up in the Stormraven giving the bird two 2+ repair rolls, and it gets a 5+ IWND roll. The Stormtalon is my only real source of AA, but I think it will be enough unless facing a skew list. The scouts are really only there to fill the ally troop tax, but they can go to ground on an objective and have a pretty annoying cover save.

In summary, I think the list is pretty solid. Obvious weaknesses would be D weapons, Mass strength 10 gunlines, and over saturated AV14. However, having multiple units that are nearly immune to small arms fire, and are highly mobile should help me control the flow of the battle. There is enough AP2 in the list to chew through MEQ and TEQ units. Lastly, the list has the speed to claim late game objectives and victory points.

Let me know what you think below!